opine, if you were a student of latin, you know what this means, otherwise you have to look it up. thank you for joining us, puerile, otherwise you would have to look it up. and live in new york city. and tonight. >> i thank the families for their sacrifice. >> emotions high as military families go to washington and demand answers into the deaths of navy s.e.a.l.s. plus? senator rand paul tells us why he thinks the president's nominee for surgeon general is out to grab america's guns. and then, a tough lesson for some college students. >> tell me this is about peace, anything but violence. >> more of this can't miss video

as we talk to the man who crashed a campus meeting to challenge what he called hatred of the jews. plus, breaking news, a family fight that led to their daughter are being taken away. >> a gag order just like ultimate permanent custody with justina was pushed off. the child's life was on the line and they don't care. breakdown, a showdown with russia, as vladimir putin has world leaders on edge. welcome to "the kelly file," i'm shannon bream in for megyn kelly. and in havana, cuba, no prior warning, this ship is believed to be equipped with sophisticated electronic surveillance gear as well as missiles and anti-aircraft guns. meanwhile, a world away, the russians flex their military muscle along the border with a

politically turbulent ukraine. russia warning others not to get involved. and president putin also put forces on alert in surprise military exercises said to involve some 150,000 russian troops, so what do we make of this? the former ambassador under president george bush, glad to see you tonight. >> glad to be with you. >> all right, we have a complicated relationship. it seems like putin wants to signal he has the upper hand. >> well, i think he does have the upper hand in ukraine. he has the high cards politically, economically and militarily. i think a lot of what is going on is intended to demonstrate that. i think there is, on the military side, these preparations could take things to a level more serious. i don't think that is where putin wants to go. but he is telling the ukraine,

and europe and the united states that they need to deal with him. and no government is going to survive long in the ukraine without them. it is an intelligence-gathering ship, you should see what we do to them. it may have some political significance but my guess is it sailed from russia long before the crisis reached ukraine. >> all right, i want to play a segment of what secretary of state john kerry has said about the two super powers, let's take a listen. >> we're hoping that russia will not see this as sort of a continuation of the cold war. we don't see it that way. we do not believe this should be an east/west, russia/united states. this is not rocky iv. >> i mean, does that seem like he is minimalizing it to you?

talking about rocky movies. this is serious stuff. >> well, it is basically what president obama said last week. he said we're not in competition with russia over ukraine, i don't see this as moving pieces around on the cold war board. if you don't think that putin doesn't have a strategy to deal with ukraine that very much doesn't involve russian interference then you're not in the real world. when you hear the united states leaders say that we're not going to get involved, that is saying to putin, you have an open field. >> i was reading a little bit of reporting from reuters, talking about the last ten years or so. rebuilding, fitting new tanks, equipment, that they have had a build-up since 2008, i believe the date was. all during the same time we're cutting our military here. >> right, well, since the russian invasion of georgia just to hark back to history that may

be analogous here, the russians didn't perform that well. with oil revenues being what they're and the economic situation worldwide the russians have been able to take advantage to modernize their conventional forces to upgrade their ballistic m forces, to rework their capability. they have done a long way. what they're doing now is making sure everybody in ukraine knows that they have the military side well in hand. >> all right, ambassador, always good to see you, thank you, sir. >> thank you. big new developments tonight in the ongoing investigation into the benghazi terror attack that killed four americans. first, just hours ago republican senators blasting the administration for allegedly misleading the american people over the attacks in order to win a presidential election. >> the american people were misled. >> the story told by susan rice

and the president himself has absolutely collapsed. it is not credible. it is a fabrication. >> it is all about a presidential campaign and the narrative that osama bin laden is dead, al-qaeda is on the run. >> ambassador rice was asked on "meet the press" do you have any regrets about what you said on every single sunday show, the fact that she had had no regrets about misleading the american people is deeply troubling. >> the american people were badly misled. >> and earlier, the powerful chairman of the house intelligence committee threatening to recall the former acting director of the cia and his boss to answer some questionable testimony. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge live with more. >> well, the allegations that the acting deputy of the cia misled the congress on the benghazi talking points took a

significant turn today when chairman mike rogers told fox news it is likely he will be recalled to testify, and also that david petraeus may be asked to testify again, as well. >> we're looking at director petraeus' transcripts and reviews, looking at the information we have available. sometimes that second interview can be equally important. and it is likely we'll have director morell to testify up before the committee. >> immediately after the attack, petraeus upset some lawmakers when they say he said that benghazi was consistent with a flash mob and seemed reluctant to fire mortars on the enemy. >> i would prefer to have an open session. i think it would be enlightening to everybody who has concerns about what happened on that september 11th day that took the lives of our americans. >> today, three leading republicans said there was ample

intelligence that there was no protest, citing eyewitness accounts from personnel in benghazi. one cia operative said they refused to share accounts. >> he said mike morrell would not share that information because there was an ongoing criminal investigation. my mouth dropped. when the meeting was over i ran back to my office. i called the fbi. they also denied that their agents ever with held information from the cia. >> in a letter to congressman rogers morrell said he would welcome the chance to testify and wants his previous testimony to be declassified. in a letter, he said i hope you agree that a session fully open at the cia and throughout the intelligence community operated proper

properly. there was no immediate response. also, senator rand paul is blocking obama's nominee to be surgeon general, saying he is out to get americans' guns. earlier today i spoke with some paul on capitol hill. thank you so much for your time today. i want to talk about your objection to the president's nominee for surgeon general. you have placed a hold which is not extremely rare, but it doesn't happen a lot. what does it mean? >> my concern is that it is a concern for health, do we want a guy who ir is going to be calling for an assault ban weapon for limiting your purchase of ammunition. do we really want that to be part of what the surgeon general is doing? i'm really worried about having somebody so partisan and political in the surgeon general position. >> i have understood he advocates staff to talk to people about guns in the home.

he thinks that gun violence is a public epidemic and that doctors should be able to determine who has guns in the home. >> i find objection to him talking to my son or daughter under 18 and without my presence. i find the nanny state, doctor/child, is really inappropriate. think of what surgeon generals have done through the history. being against smoking, being against obesity, things that are bad for yourself. that is a reasonable public health concern, but to be somebody who is beating up on the bill of rights, i mean, he truly is a basher of the bill of rights, going on his twitter account saying we shouldn't be allowed to own certain guns or buy types of ammunition. this is not the kind of advocacy

we want. >> shouldn't the president pick somebody who is aligned with his own philosophy, but do you think it would affect his ability to impartially do the job? >> yes, i believe this is not a political position, the president has to get the approval from the senate. we'll see how that goes. this is not a position that should be political. this should be somebody who you really don't care if they're republican or democrat because they're for public health. the second amendment is part of the bill of rights. if your goal in life is to trash the second amendment. you should be a partisan, you can be on twitter, you can be on msnbc, but you don't need to be the surgeon general. >> you said this should not be a political issue, the senate majority leader harry reid has said your hold on this particular nominee is republicans playing politics with the white house with this position. sounds like he is planning to

move forward despite your hold. >> you wouldn't hear a peep from me if this guy were partisan. i sit down and break bread with eric holder. i'm not somebody just beating up on democrats because they're democrat. this is somebody i think a lot of objective people, the former surgeon general carmona, who is a democrat, has come out and said this man is not qualified to be the surgeon general. so there are people on both sides who are concerned about him politicalizing the position. >> all right, speaking of nominees, 2016, your name is out there quite a bit. is that a plus or a minus early on because it also makes you a target for criticism and people who want to work against a potential nomination. are you going to run? >> it sounds like bad luck to be a leader two years in advance only if the election were next week. no, i haven't really decided yet. i am interested in making the

republican party bigger and making the message more open and inclusive to everybody. a party that is divided, splitting hairs over every issue is not how you get a party to win with. i have been traveling, talking a lot about how the individual bill of rights issues really can reach out to people who have been disaffected, maybe traumatized by criminal injustice. there are a lot of african-americans in jail unfairly because of the war on drugs. i think this is a message that has not been tried before. >> we'll keep an eye on it. if you have anything to tell us, we're here, we're all ears. thank you, senator, good to see you. coming up next, benny goldberg on what the media got wrong on the controversial arizona bill. plus? i thank the families for their sacrifice. the -- the large loss of life.

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new reaction tonight, arizona governor's jan brewer's decision to veto a controversial bill that would have allowed business owners to deny services if the owners could prove that providing those services would force them to violate their religious beliefs. but did the media play fair when it came to reporting the facts about what was actually in the bill? bernie goldberg is a fox news analyst, good to see you, bernie. >> hi. >> so let's talk about it. i saw the reporting everywhere and decided to read the text days ago and it didn't appear to mirror the words, there were no words about homosexuality, things of that nature. it would give the business owners certain defenses they

could still have to prove in court. but what i saw on tv was nothing like the bill that i read. >> that is because tv turns this thing into a reader's digest. they compress everything so you're not going to see everything anyway. emphasizing gay rights, if that was their concern or religious freedom, if that was their concern. i'm not just the media analyst. i'm also part of the media. i wrote a piece on my website, bernardboldberg.com about this proposed law. and my concern was, i understand the concern of social conservatives. but if you open a shop on the main street, then you have to serve the general public. you can't say well, i'm not going to serve these people and i will serve those people. >> why not?

this is america, why would you want to do business with somebody, no matter their personal issue, why not just go down the street and say i'm going to spend my money who supports me and is kind to me and provides the services to me? >> okay, let's take that argument to its logical conclusion. let's say it's not a social conservative christian who opens the shop, but a devout muslim who opens up a restaurant in your town, wherever your town is. and the woman goes in for lunch and he says whoa, you can't come in with this restaurant, you need to be here with a man, those are my deeply held relative beliefs. >> i probably wouldn't want to eat there. >> well, that is up to you, but would you have made this argument in greensboro, north carolina, when four college black youths went to woolworth and sat at the counter where

they were not wanted, and said i want lunch. they were american heroes because they didn't get up and say i'm not wanted here, i'll go somewhere else. what happened was, within a day a few more people came in, then a few more, a few more and that turned the civil rights around in large part. that is why you shouldn't just go to another place. >> there are many people who lived through the civil rights movement. i cannot speak to that, obviously, that not being my personal experience. many of them held a press conference this week, african-american pastors who said we lived through that, we felt the pain of that and for us we do not appreciate this particular fight being equated to our civil rights fight. i mean, some of them find that objectionable. >> well, that is their call, i happen to disagree with them. in the 1960s, the argument was, state's rights. we don't have to serve anybody we don't want to serve. i opened the business with my

money, i'm taking all the risks. if i don't want to serve people i don't have to -- >> i'm sorry, i hate to leave it there. but we're out of time. good thing in this country we all agree to disagree. good thing on our points of view. bernie, we'll be right back. it says here that a won's sex drive increases at the age of 80. helps reduce the risk of heart disse. keep hrt-healthy. live long. eat the 100% goodness of post shreddedheat. doctorrecommend it. ♪ they lived ♪ they lived. ♪ they lived. ♪

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hi, chris? >> how are we doing? >> we are excellent, let's talk poll numbers, listen, you and i know, nine months away, it's a lot of months away until we vote in november. so do you think democrats are going to be scared when they see this bill? i'm sorry, the poll. >> well, it is about 35 weeks, which yes in political time it is several eras, but the contours of this race are shaping up. and i predict we'll look back on this week as the week when the realization sets in for democrats that this is for real. this is actually happening. and right now the chances of the democrats losing the senate got very real for these folks. the map is expanding, the republicans are playing in a lot more places than before. and the likelihood that democrats will be able to hold republicans to five seats is going way down. all you have to do, there is another number in that poll that is so important. when you look at obamacare, the

way they ask it basically is do you think the law is great? do you want to fix it or repeal it? in the span of a month, the people who want to repeal it, it doesn't mean it will be repealed. but the more experience voters have with this law the longer it hangs out there, the less they like it. >> democrats say they're going to run on it. they say it will be a net plus for them. >> they say a lot of stuff, they're politicians, they're can't help it. harry reid can say the stories are made up, but what this tells us for the americans who don't go in ads for americans for prosperity, for americans who are not talking to the local tv station the experience with this law is causing them to sour on it. and we've not reached the magic point that the obama democrats said was out there, which was one day people will get to know

the law, it is better, we'll soften. this is particularly troubling for the democrats because now we're into phase four, five, six, whatever you want to call it for the implementation of this law. it is not getting better, it is getting worse. >> political ads are often very confusing. purposely confusing. now we have ads out there from democrats saying i'm fighting to make serious changes to this bill. if you didn't know you would think it was a republican candidate running that ad. >> well, obviously the attempt here is to own the fact that the law has to be repaired. but did you hear what hillary clinton had -- had to say this week? >> i did, there is distance being placed. >> she put the blinker on, pulling out into the passing lane. what she said was we need to find out what is wrong with the law and fix it. that doesn't sound great job, on obamacare. >> and if it didn't work under

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great news for the family, where she is is a medical facility and foster care is not a medical facility. we're also learning that attorneys for the department of children and families in massachusetts may be willing to drop this fight and allow justina to go back to tuft's medical center. if the judge agreed to that, that would essentially mean justina would be going home. because at the very center of the case is the fact that tufts diagnosed her wit h my the disease. now the pressure is mounting. it is not just the media or the public.

two republican lawmakers are now circulating a resolution that has 12 signatures asking dcf to release justina, we spoke with lou pelletier, and since a year, he is more optimistic. >> yes, this is a light at the end of the tunnel. we just want to make sure it is not a train at the end of the t tunnel. we can't let our guard down, we want to make sure we keep doing what we're doing, to make people aware, and the people who have the executive powers to do this. >> the next custody hearing is on march 17th, but as you can see the wheels of this case are moving much, much faster. >> thank you, tracy, that is good news. and raw emotions, on the single deadliest day of the war in afghanistan. a chopper crash that killed 30 american troops.

still tonight, some of the families of the fallen say questions remain unanswered. here is what happened. in the early hours of august 6th, 2011, troops boarded a chinook helicopter in a mission to capture a taliban commander. shortly after, they took enemy fire, a rocket propelled grenade hitting a rotor blade and engulfing the chinook in flames. eight hours later the remains of 30 american troops including 17 navy s.e.a.l.s were identified. two and a half years later, some of the families of the s.e.a.l.s going to washington asking for answers. congressman, thank you so much for your time. what answers were you hoping to get? >> well, hopefully we provided some clarity to families who are still grieving and just want some basic answers. one of the things that was out there was this idea that upon the crash, the black box in this

helicopter had somehow washed away in a flash flood. that just doesn't sound plausible, right? ends up that this chinook helicopter runs on analog instrumentation, and doesn't even have a black box, again, we provided clarity and hope to the families who want answer. >> and i want to give you a chance to clarify, there are some who say that the families were not allowed to testify, we're talking about a big group of people. why was that decision made? >> we have some who want the spectrum of privacy, didn't want to have open hearings, while others wanted to have the hearings. we said send us your questions, we'll facilitate the dialogue with the pentagon. we had classified hearings, which unfortunately only the members of congress can attend.

we dealt with it as sensitive as possible and jet still tried to shed light on it. >> i want to talk about questions we heard from family members, doug landborn, whose son was killed in the crash. he wanted to know why afghans were not interviewed as part of the post-investigation. did you get answers on that today? >> i asked that specific question in the hearing of the pentagon. they didn't have a good answer on that, they agreed to get back to us. but we didn't get a clarifying answer on that point. >> all right, another point, charles strange, father of one of the soldiers killed, the call sign -- this has referred to as extortion 17. and there are many family members who publicly say they feel in some way the taliban had gotten information from somebody who leaked information and that is how they knew this particular chinook was coming. any discussion of that? >> i think it was a legitimate

question. but if you look at the operation itself, it was actually a ranger team that went in first, and then the s.e.a.l. team, primarily s.e.a.l.s, there were others involved in the air force, arrest wes well. they were the backup. and when they were called into service they didn't know where they were going to go until they took off. i don't think there was an opportunity to tell the taliban, it was horrific. awful, these people going into the most dangerous places in the world. but i don't see any evidence that somehow the taliban was tipped off and they were prepared and that is why they took out this helicopter. >> to the families, many of whom were publicly speaking, they say they have gotten inconsistent stories, they have been told there were discrepancies that don't line up. do you think there is a chance to get closures, not that you can when you lose a loved one, but at least to get answers. >> well, shannon, that is why we

held the hearings today. we cleared up the black box, the so-called flash flood. the part that bothered me, when the audience cheered, they're not really supposed to in a congressional hearing. but they did. when they had the ceremony and combined the caskets they combined the afghan services together. i can't imagine if my son was in one of those caskets, but i pled with the pentagon to say don't combine the services. when you have a fallen american hero, i don't want an afghan trying to bless that body or say anything, have a separate service. i think the pentagon got that message. i know that the families there agreed with the sentiment. >> we can never repay the debt, what those families have given up and those men who gave their lives. congressman, thank you for trying to help them get some answers. >> thank you, shannon. coming up, we'll look at why lawyers for one of america's biggest credit agencies are so focused on a closed door meeting

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one of america's biggest credit agencies, s&p suggested doj lawsuit into their company may have begun with a closed door meeting with the president and their treasury secretary. >> it is important to note that the department of justice claims that the standard and poors in 2004 and 2005 pumped up the credit rating to help them. remember, moodies and fitch, the other two ratings agencies also gave mortgage securities good ratings and it is still very unclear why only s&p is being sued. s&p claims the white house is retaliating against it for downgrading the us credit rating back in 2011. if you don't remember here is a timeline. august 5th, 2011, s&p downgrades the u.s. credit rating, three

days later, treasury secretary tim geithner meeting with the president in the oval office. later, the president calls terry mcgraw, who owns s&p. he claims tim geithner said this that s&p had done an enormous disservice to yourself and your country. that s&p's conduct would be looked at very carefully and such behavior could not occur without a response. in response, a tim geithner spokesperson said, quoting, the allegation that secretary tim geithner took any retaliation against s&p is false. the department of justice says the investigation into s&p began long before the u.s. credit rating was downgraded. s&p is now asking the courts to force the obama administration to turn over all documents and recordings associated with the

obam obama/tim geithner meeting as well as the tim geithner phone call. it is not clear when the judge would make a decision on those documents. >> all right, trace, thank you. cannot miss video coming out of a student government meeting at one of the largest universities in america. students at ucla held a hearing to protest their school's relationship with companies who do business with israel. and when the conservative activist ben shapiro found out about the conservative activism voices were there, he dropped out to make sure the other side was presented, as well. >> i got out of that and left my 1 month-old baby here when i saw what was going on. i have never been more ashamed to be an alumnis of this university. pretend this is about peace, anything but violence, despicable jew hatred is a lie. >> and shapiro is the senior

editor at large, and editor and co-host of truth, founder. ben, good to see you. yeah, you sounded pretty motivated to literally drop everything and get over there. what was your concern about what was going on? >> i started getting text messages from jewish students at the meeting asking for people to pray for israel. i saw what was going on, slandering israel, this was clearly an anti-semitic effort. we safe it at other california schools, i tried to determine if it was an open hearing and if anybody could speak. i turned to my wife and said sweetheart, i need you to take care of the baby for a while. got over to ucla and basically laid out what is a very clear

moral narrative. unfortunately, the divestment effort from israel is obviously, and indisputably, an anti-jewish effort. to single israel out as the source of the problems in the middle east, to single them out, where gays are routinely hung in iran, where women are not allowed to get an education, where all the surrounding countries, it is an absurd statement. and a moral reversal. as my friend says, unfortunately at america's major universities, there is a surplus of knowledge and a lack of wisdom. >> why do you think there is focus on this? there are countries that do things that we find objectionable, and don't have the freedoms we are very privileged to enjoy here, to have discussions, to drive, to get an education, as a woman to do all sorts of things. why do you think on college

campuses there is a trend of talking about divestiture, specifically with israel and not those other countries. >> because jew hatred is still the last politically correct hatred in america. and really, you can really determine where somebody stands on the fundamental base of freedom, on where they stand with israel. if they believe that all cultures are not inherently equal, then they stand against israel, the truth is if you went to most major american campuses and attempted to pass a divest from america issue, my guess is you would probably get the same response from the same people. >> i understand there were people upset in the room when the final vote came in and they decided against the divestiture move. >> yeah, there were people crying, one video of a woman who was crying almost

uncontrollably. there are people making fun of this particular woman. i wish there were that level of passion on the side of protecting western civilization and values as they were on attacking western civilization and values, until we reach that level, we won't reach what makes america so real and wonderful. >> well, i'm glad all sides were represented and a very robust conversation was had. thank you, so much ben. >> all right, he was only 26 years old when he gave his life for his country. now, his widow has a message for us and the country on what to do for afghanistan. she joins us, plus? tonight on hannity. >> you don't want to actually when the rubber meets the road, you don't want to help. >> when the rubber meets the road, i'm saying if you have kids take care of your kids and be responsible. it's te for advil cold and sinus. [ male announcer ] truth is twon't relieve all your symptoms. new alka seltzer plus-d relieves more symptoms

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this week, the u.s. announced it is considering withdrawing all u.s. troops from afghanistan by the end of this year. my next guest feels like that would be a big mistake, not only endangering our national security but to her, it is appalling. because she knows all too well the sacrifices the americans have made in the last war. in 2011, she lost her husband, specialist christopher horton, in his first deployment, he was just 26 years old. jane horton joins us, jane, i want to say there is no way we can understand the debt that you and your husband and others have paid, so we thank you for your

service, arrest w -- as well. >> thank you. >> what are your concerns now about us leaving? >> it seems like it was in place, this plan, withdrawing the troops, all the investments that the american people have made in the country continue -- it seems that there is a problem with that and there needs to be a plan in place so that when we leave none of these sacrifices, all the service members that were wounded, that were killed, that deployed. that all of their are sacrifices are not in vain. >> what was your reaction, because you heard the u.s. is having a hard time with president karzai who will soon be replaced with new elections. they have been trying to have a drawdown, what was your thought when you heard we would make the

move? >> i was honestly pretty heartbroken, pretty upset. so many people have sacrificed, and so many people have been broken in the 12-plus years. and i understand the american people are sick of the wars and want them to end. but we have to be responsible americans and people and we have to finish the wars instead of just ending them. >> how are you doing now, your loved ones, his family, as well? >> you know, we're doing okay. each day we have a duty to make sure we give everything for this country. because our loved ones, and my husband gave everything to sacrifice for this country, as well. so it is very important for me to make sure we do everything to preserve the freedoms that he gave everything for. >> and what would be your message tonight to the president about what he is considering? >> i think we learned a very, very important lesson in iraq. you can't just pull out of a war without leaving troops behind to make sure that all the gains we made are still in place and that they continue to make sure that

the afghans and afghanistan is a safe country. we went over to afghanistan because there is terror in this world and al-qaeda threatened america. we need to make sure that we continue to provide afghanistan with stability. that the fragile afghanistan forces continue to have our support so that they can continue to secure the country on their home front in afghanistan. >> jane, again, we thank you for all that you have shared with this country, thank you. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. tomorrow? tomorrow. quick look at the weather. nice day, beautiful tomorrow. tomorrow is full of promise. we can come back tomorrrow. and we promise to keep it that way. driven to preserve the environment, csx moves a ton of freight nearly 450 miles on one gallon of fuel. what a day. can't wait til tomorrow.

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with senator rand paul you can catch it on facebook at facebook.com/"the kelly file." thank you. i'm shannon bream, this is "the kelly file". welcome to "hannity" tonight, we have a jam-packed edition of the show. america, are you ready? let's roll. >> we are now at a constitutional tipping point in our system. >> a liberal professor tells us why he has turned on the president. >> we have the rise of an uber-presidency. there could be no greater dan r danger. >> the planet has a fever. >> what a founding member of greenpeace says about global warming. >> there is misinformation and fear. >> and he is here